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... to The Mighty Alex Toth, born on this day in 1928. Sorely missed by those of us in the know.

Date: 2010-06-25 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginsu.livejournal.com
From Wikipedia:

In general, Toth lamented what he saw as a lack of awareness on the part of younger artists of their predecessors, as well as a feeling that the innocent fun of comics’ past was being lost in the pursuit of pointless nihilism and “mature content.”

Not in every case...

Date: 2010-06-25 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johncomic.livejournal.com
Funny you should mention that...

Toth wasn't a conscious influence on me when I was first conceptualizing Space Kid, but maybe he shoulda been**. In any event, you're right -- if he had seen my new series, I bet he would've approved.

** having said that: he was a conscious influence on part of page 9 -- which I intend to explain in the commentary when I post it.

Date: 2010-06-25 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginsu.livejournal.com
I sometimes wonder when the trend I think he was talking about, that I would say began with projects like The Dark Knight, will finally come to an end.

How much longer can they keep feeding us dark, noire-ish projects full of blues and blacks and falling rain and painful betrayals and anti-heroes who smoke cigarettes and grimly acknowledge bleak reality?

You'd think sooner or later it would just all seem cliched... but it's been a quarter century at this point.

Date: 2010-06-25 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johncomic.livejournal.com
Well remember, we've had “people with superhuman abilities who wear spandex and fight evil and maintain a secret identity”, since 1938 and there's no sign of that letting up either. The American comics medium is peculiarly resistant to change...

Date: 2010-06-25 04:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginsu.livejournal.com
I'm not so sure.

Marvel's Civil War was about forcing superheroes to abandon their secret identities; since Dark Knight, evil is what the heroes often are; and spandex has been replaced many times with more noire-ish substitutions, as in the case of the all-black Spider-Man costume that turned out to be a malicious alien.

It's seeped into other genres too. BSG had a nasty, gritty look-and-feel that in my opinion was directly inspired by The Matrix, which was in turn directly inspired by dark-and-dirty comics of the late eighties and nineties.

When I find creative projects that actually use a comprehensive color palette, like Lost did, I am actually surprised.

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